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[jimbobsimmonds]

Hi all. Got my new engine dropped in yesterday...

1 or 2 little niggles... Firstly very occasionly if i blip the throttle at the lights the idle will sit around 1400rpm...

And today on the way to work the Engine management light comes on and I get a message, "Emissions Service Required". Any ideas, I'm going to the mechanic today to give him the rest of his money so could I lead his in the right direction...

Thanks
James

[V70Ben]

Read the codes...

[jimbobsimmonds]

Yep, just sent Richard (clan) a text. Hopefully he is available soon. Here's to me hoping its just a sensor that hasn't been plugged back in...

[jimbobsimmonds]

Just used torque app and it says the engine is running too lean... I can't remember the exact code so i'll be out again at lunchtime having a look...

[jimbobsimmonds]

Right, got Torque on it and we have the following codes....

P1238: Powertrain ((Turbo flow high?)
P0171: Lean Bank 1 (I assume being a 5 pot I only have 1 bank of 5)

Going to Richards tonight, see what it throws up...

[GazT4R]

TCV hoses correct?

Other than that need Volvo codes really as some don't match up correctly.

[jimbobsimmonds]

Big thank you once again to Richard for use of the code machine... Really helps...

Right, a big load of codes came up but I don't know when they were logged...

Some that may help:

* CCM0021: Air quality sensor?
ECM6806: Turbo flow system control fault
ECM262A: Long term fuel trim...

A reset (after which the car wouldn't start without me manually controlling the throttle, however, it seems to start fine now) then a 30 minute drive on mixed roads yielded the following:

CCM0021 and CEM1D04 (because its remapped)

Also the idling at 1400rpm is becoming worse. If you apply a small amount of load on the engine like lifting the clutch with the brakes still on it slowly lowers to 1k again....

Still, something isn't right. The emissions warning hasn't returned...

[adam b]

Check for any air leaks and that all the hoses have been put back on correctly.

[jimbobsimmonds]

Right... The Emissions warning is back and the car is booked in for a code read with Clan998 tomorrow...

Anyhow, a useful snippet of information. The mechanic mentioned the timing belt on the "new" engine was very slack so I suggested he change the cambelt. Today i'm told that the timing on the new engine and the old engine is different, and that he did not want to change the timing on the new engine to that of the old in case he damaged it. Now some codes were thrown (no idea of age) about the cam/crank position sensors being wrong...

Could have something to do with it. I imagine timing being off is going to throw up all sorts of shit...

[GazT4R]

The VVT needs timing up correctly and the instructions in VADIS/VIDA are not correct. Alan (Barnleys Bill) had a load of problems with his following the 'Volvo' instructions.
PM Barnsley Bill or Tim as they can tell you how to do it correctly.

[jimbobsimmonds]

Am i right in thinking ihave the exhaist vvt and it was the 'zorst one the mechanic expressed concern...

Have text and PMed the great man himself and if i cant get in touch will give Shem a shout. I have the bike for these lovely summer mornings we are having but tbh the way i feel right now i might even take it to RT (did i say that aloud?)

Cheers for your help thus far... I feel like (am) a net taker from those on this site but i will try and pay u back when i can. Done the courier service once, will do it again if and hopefully when i pay tim a visit....

James

[GazT4R]

Yes you'll have exhaust VVT, the P2R's and 2005> 2.4T5 have both.
iirc the VVT timing should be set completely the opposite (turning it the opposite way) to what VIDA says. Hence Why Alan had so much trouble.

[tingymagig]

GazT4R, on 02 February 2012 - 20:07 , said:

Yes you'll have exhaust VVT, the P2R's and 2005> 2.4T5 have both.
iirc the VVT timing should be set completely the opposite (turning it the opposite way) to what VIDA says. Hence Why Alan had so much trouble.

is that like VTEC YOOOO but with out the YOOOO and without  the need to plaster it all over the place as a "performance" upgrade

[GazT4R]

Only does duration adjustment not lift like VTEC YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Like the later ones it's to help with the overlap as the revs rise aiding the turbo. The later models use it on both cams for more effect.

[jimbobsimmonds]

Cheers guys... Would that explain why it feels so down on power through the entire rev range, V mx is now 130mph, not good

[jimbobsimmonds]

Hi all... Just taken in the Richard's and we have gone through and read the codes again now the emissions lights are on and we got the following:

ECM531D: Control Module TCM (book says this stands for Transmission module, mines a manual...)
ECM6806: Turbo control flow fault
ECM262A: Long term fuel trim....

Now, I noticed one other very interesting thing. I was trying to blip the throttle at the lights to get in to very high idle again (1400rpm) and was heel toeing (on the brakes and blipping the throttle) and noticed the throttle was not moving. So, when I got back to the car park I stop, put in neutral and hold the brake on the left and no matter how hard I depress the throttle it will not rev. Foot off the brake, this is fine...

Could be something to do with the ECM9400, 9300 messages I got on the first code read suggesting a fault with the accelerator pedal and brake pedal position sensors...

Anybody with VADIS/VIDA able to elaborate on this?

Getting kinda fed up with it all...

Cheers
James

[adam b]

The management is not allowing it to rev because it is protecting the engine. The pedal isnt physically connected by a cable - its fly by wire

[jimbobsimmonds]

Just seems weird it was only doing it when I had my foot on the brake not allowing heel toe action (because of course I do that all the time ). It's now allowing me to do it again...

[Barnsley-Bill]

With the VVT timing set wrong it should show missfire on a couple of cylinders, thats what it did on mine.
And as Gaz has said dont go with what vadis says, I think the info on vida has the right way of setting it up.

[jimbobsimmonds]

Not showing misfire, just running lean and turbo control issues... Even if this isn't the main source of my woes I'm still going to get Mr Williams to address it...