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After 12 years first non-Volvo and non-estate.

I've always wanted one. Not by any chance a replacement for my ATM sick 850, It's rather a sightseeing car. She is quick, turns in well, but nowhere near as entertaining as the 850. A GT3 would suit my use better, but I missed the moment when their prices were at the bottom and now I cannot afford it, and I couldn't afford to track it anyway. I don't think I ever dare bringing her to the Ring or other racetrack.

 

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Manual gear box of course. Has got all the options I wanted: carbon ceramic brakes, adaptive seats, and the more sporty, thicker steering wheel.

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Thanks Chris, it's something like your M3. Not a car for hard abuse, rather to be washed, polished and looked at :) I also bought her as a car I will not want to modify. But having seen the stuff Do88 make for this car, it'll be a hard challenge to keep her stock ;) And she's also annoyingly quiet. :) The only thing I've bought so far is a set of Pilot Super Sports, not fitted yet.

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That looks great congrats

Definatly needs a ring sticker though :whistling::D

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Thanks Aidan. Taking slow laps in a 850 is much less embrassing than in a 997 :) 

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Very impressive machines the 911 turbo's and as you say, do what they need to out of the factory very well.

 

Car looks brilliant, grey is a great colour and a great fun car to have some fun in and cover some longer drives.  Hope you continue to enjoy it!!! 

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Thanks. The colour - Dark Slate Grey was one of the buying points of this particular car. I originally wanted one in Arctic Silver, as nearly all of the cars for sale are either black or silver. Black is beautiful, but just one day after a wash, so bright silver that proved itself to be maintenance free at my P2.5 V70 was on the top of my list. I actually had not been aware of the Slate Grey before I found this car.

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That is lovely, congratulations.

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Thanks. Right moment to get one now, or rather in the winter, but from what I read across the internet, their prices have stopped sinking and are at their bottom right now. Meanwhile 997 GT3's prices have already rocketed once they released the 991 GT3 without manual option. Given the cost of entertainment It is hardly an investment, but at least these cars shouldn't depreciate any more.

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Bloody gorgeous, congratulations

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Thanks Andy, the pic in your avatar kept hypnotising myself and this is the result :)

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Awesome! Dream garage material for me a 911!

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Thanks guys :) For myself it is also a dream come true. 

Some more details to the car. It is 10/2007, a 2008 model with 90+k miles (148k km) on the clock, (not few for such car but I rather prefer actual condition), full Porsche service history, two previous owners, the first one did 20k miles each 8 months, so most of the miles are motorway. I bought it in Italy from the second owner. It is packed with options, most of them I never use, but turbo's are often well equipped:

 

- Sport Chrono package (never saw a turbo without one)

- Sunroof (the same as above), I would prefer saving the weight instead

- Bose Sound System (the same as above)

- PCCB brakes - great, just need to fit the PSS's to be able to use their potential, great looking to it

- Adaptive electric sport seats - a must have for someone used to Volvo seats' quality.

- heated front seats (not all the italian cars have them)

- Additional leather package - sides of the armrest

- Sporty steering wheel, not the multifunctional one - actually don't know which one was available as extra

- Black alcantara roof lining

- Home link

Actually there is just rear window wiper (a summer sightseeing car doesn't need one) and some odd additional leather packages (such as A-pillars, the portion of the door cards around the window switches, etc) missing to be completely full.

 

Some photo's I've taken during today's spin, photos taken on the run without previous cleaning of the car:

 

Apart from stopping well and the yellow calipers adding up well to the grey paint of the car, the best thing about these is that they produce nearly no brake dust, so the wheels are always clean:

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The looks of 90+k miles brake discs was also a surprise to me.

Some photos of the interior, sorry for the mess at door sills:

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And some other photos of the car:

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Looking great.

Enjoy!

:D

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That's just car porn on a massive scale.

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Thanks mate :) After extracting the photos I discovered, that the loose leather at the outer side bolster of driver's seat stretches itself again after setting the side bolsters from tight fit to the wide default position. I've seen quite many turbo's with half the mileage and more worn interior....Some skilled detailers on here would crop much more out of the condition of this car. I rather tend to having the detailing done by some professionals, beacause spoiling something myself would be more expensive.

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What a machine. I don't know much about Porsche's apart from a lot of the action happens from/at the back. It's taken a while to work out that this is a Porsche 911 (997 model) Turbo... Correct? I have always looked at the breaks and tyres on Porsches at the ring and they just seem to be very well sorted... Hope you have lots of fun with this Dali! Uhuh!

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Thanks Ryan :) Yes, it is a 997 Turbo 480PS(353KW), 620Nm (680Nm with10second overboost), four wheel drive. These figures sound mighty, but they feel a bit different. The car weighs similar as 850/70 (some 1600kgs). If you added 130BHP on the top of tuned 850/70 it would be a beast, this thing feels different tho. A tuned 850 feels like twice as quick... untill you look at the speedometer. The perception of the speed in this car is way different. You can also forget the factory claimed peak torque at some 2000+ rpm (you might believe it because of variable turbine geometry turbos), there's quite a substantial lag and things start to move when the rev counter needle goes past 3000 mark and already at 6750rpm the limiter kicks in. So the power band is quite narrow, I would expect something similar to remapped 2.4T5. When I tried timing 100-160km/h (60-100 would result maybe some 0,5 seconds more) it did 3,8s (no idea how accurate because it happens that quick and the speedometer is tiny), 100-200km/h (like 60-125mph) 7,8seconds, it should get 0-60 well under 4 second mark (haven't tried, but sounds legit).

It has got electronic dampers like Volvo's 4-C, but unlike Volvo Monroe ones, these are produced by Bilstein, nevertheless there are 2 suspension modes, normal and sport, for me they work out like off-road (too soft) and normal. High speed corners the 850 on KW V3's feels more confident, I haven't seen the 997 going any faster in those corners that are best fun in the 850. Wiping slow and tight corners is a different story in the 997. The way it turns in is very addictive. Actually because of this fact you are able to enjoy driving the 997 at slower speeds than the 850. The 997.1 Turbo suspension is often criticised as making the car soulless, and there are rumors that Porsche deliberately de-tuned it to make the Turbo more of a grand tourer than a sports car, of course there is a cure, directly from Bilstein, the B16 Damptronic coilovers, which allegedly turn the car into what it should have been right from the begining. Maybe once when there's nothing to enhance at the 850, I give them a thought ;)

Build quality and materials in the interior are superb. Funny thing is that the 997 consumes less petrol than the 850 when driven in similar manner, but on the other hand it has got just 67 ltr tank.

This car is way a different sport to a tuned P1 Volvo, having both of them in the garage seems to make sense.

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Ooooof! That's just naughty! Sure you don't want to swap it for the Hilux? ;)

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