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[JCviggen]

FWIW

My S60 "226hp" RICA chip 60-100mph in 4th ~9.5 secs. (speedo video) maybe RICA isn't so bad after all
My T-5R 60-100mph in 3rd 4.45 secs (GPS logged) actually spent around 0.5s shifting to 4th because I can't reach 100 in 3rd anymore

Edited by JCviggen, 18 January 2010 - 22:04 .

[Ross9]

Afraid I don't have any of the intervals listed lol, but will endeavour to get them, will be interesting to see things like the 60-100 in 5th, in 5th gear at 60 the T4 won't go anywhere quickly lol, not sure what rpm that is but it's certainly not in the boost band of the GT3076 turbo lol, tbh 4th wouldn't be at it's best either. 3rd gear would be ridiculously quicker in comparison as it'd be sitting at a full 1.8 bar of boost.

Anyway, a vid from 2007 that I took of the speedo then tried to be fair, ie didn't stop the clock until just as it got to 110 for a 0-100 run etc to allow for over read, gave these figures.

20-60 : 3.2 seconds
20-100 : 9.0 seconds
20-140 : 17.9 seconds
30-70 : 4.1 seconds
30-130 14.0 seconds

Car has undergone a good few changes since then, got rid of the log manifold for a full custom tubular one and exhaust system at the same time to replace the patchwork one it had, more boost, further mapping etc but no such interval testing, went to Crail early 2009

Ran a 13.8 @ 111mph 1/4 mile on a damp track, did 5 runs that day all between 110 and 112.2mph, all of these runs were done at part throttle in gears 1 and 2, some with 3/4 throttle in 3rd due to the greasy/wet conditions, full throttle in 4th on all runs. In it's current spec that it did those runs in it is notably quicker than when it did the intervals above, from memory I think the 1/4 mile terminals of 110-112.2 exceed the previous bests by 5 or 6mph, and the previous bests were done on a bone dry track with full power at all times (bar the launch to stop it just spinning up)

Be interesting to see what intervals it can do, I'll try and do the ones suggested, then do some in the right gears for max performance and see the difference, I mean 40-60 in 5th? c'mon... lol. on a proper 0-max run for testing I would still be in 2nd at 60, cars mapped to 7500rpm (1000 above the original redline), and usualyl hold it to at least 7000 now the new map has it pulling all the way.

Anyway, if you can extrapolate any of the intervals from what I've posted then feel free.

Here's the required info for the top of the sheet.

Owner - V6en (my wifes car, she uses the forum too)
Vehicle - MY2000 S40 T4 Phase 2
Tune State - LOL, eh, standard. No seriously, to get it in a table say MTE Custom remap and .."significant hardware changes"
date - n/a
conditions - wet surface, drying to damp/almost dry but still cold and greasy
air temp - 10 at a guess
fuel - Vpower
occupants - 2
tyre pressures - OE
Gearbox - manual 5 speed
Air filter - cone filter in enclosed cold air box
Timed with - video recording and stopwatch OR MSA Approved drag strip timing

PS - made a lot of mention of it on strips etc and it having a lot of tuning, it's road legal, full trim, Jacqs away to work in it today, we take it to tesco etc.

Good thread

Ross

[jardon]

jardon, on 20 October 2009 - 17:14 , said:

60-100 on the speedo in 3rd 6.3secs (started at 55mph)

60-100 in 4th 8.1 secs (started at 55)

80-120 in 4th 9.6 secs (started at 75)

Wet road, flat, no wind, mobile phone, 2 runs each and no variation in timings oddly enough.

Update since Marcos work:

Dry road, flat, no wind, mobile phone, 3 runs 5.2, 5.4, 5.3. All in 3rd gear and starting runs at 55mph, timing at 60. My clutch won't hold in 4th so nothing for that since the new software. Really pleased.

[Cassis R]

jardon, on 26 January 2010 - 08:18 , said:

Update since Marcos work:

Dry road, flat, no wind, mobile phone, 3 runs 5.2, 5.4, 5.3. All in 3rd gear and starting runs at 55mph, timing at 60. My clutch won't hold in 4th so nothing for that since the new software. Really pleased.

Bloody hell Jardon that is excellent, i know what you mean about the brakes let you know how fast you are going lol,

Gary.

[jardon]

I know, for a heavy phase 2 car and a weeny turbo it's quick. JC's T5R time is crazy.

[jardon]

More times:

60-100 4th gear 7.4 secs

60-100 5th gear 10.8 secs

both average of three and timed using a phone. Again I started run at 50-55ish. Dry, flat and 3 celcius.

I thought my clutch had repaired itself but it started slipping again after the above.

[Big Lee]

I`ll have to get some figures of the MTE`d D5 starting at 50-55mph as I think that would probably improve the times no end as it gives the car more momentum and the turbo is spooled up just nice! Cheating? to get better figures, of course

[Tim Williams]

Big Lee, on 10 February 2010 - 08:58 , said:

I`ll have to get some figures of the MTE`d D5 starting at 50-55mph as I think that would probably improve the times no end as it gives the car more momentum and the turbo is spooled up just nice! Cheating? to get better figures, of course

You won't have any more momentum starting a a lower speed, you will not have to wait for the turbo to give full boost but remember the diesels unlike the petrol turbos run giving possitive pressure dependent on RPM and not throttle opening. Starting a lower speed will help a petrol but not a diesel to the same extent.

[Elliot]

jardon, on 26 January 2010 - 08:18 , said:

Update since Marcos work:

Dry road, flat, no wind, mobile phone, 3 runs 5.2, 5.4, 5.3. All in 3rd gear and starting runs at 55mph, timing at 60. My clutch won't hold in 4th so nothing for that since the new software. Really pleased.

Bloody hell thats mentally fast for a P2 full weight car. To give you an idea when i was running the k24 hybrid with stripped interior and just under 380hp and about the same torque on a DD roller mine was doing 5.3 ish 60-100 and it trapped 1/4 at and average 115mph at santa pod at 13.1 if i recall right. It was far from laggy either. Not timed mine recently as it tries to spin both front wheels in the cold in 3rd

[jardon]

It is quick enough to scare me now Elliot and there is a marked difference between running 100% meth and 50/50. I wonder if I'll see a drop in performance when the summer comes as these times are all measured at sub 5C ambient. My stock intercooler is probably the weak link but the cost is an issue. My IAT's are never more than 40C in the summer with Water/meth though. I think the meth is so potent as my car burns it and trims petrol automatically (being a phase 2 car) so my target afr remains the same (10.7). On water only I'll be running enough fuel for an AFR of 10.7 under load AND the water on top. It loves the knock resistance of the higher octane I think. I'm really pleased with the way it runs since Marco added more advance and datalogging shows no knock sensor input at these ambient temperatures. if I get retard in the summer I may have to think again or experiment with meth jet sizes (currently 0.6mm but for 15% meth to fuel I'd need a 1mm - we'll see). I would be keen to point out that while I'm happy that my timings are "correct" because they are genuine averages, they are based on my speedo. Hence my 60-100 might be 55-95 in reality - but it's not going to be far out. Fitting an R clutch soon and a quaife - wheelspin is an issue. Considered a gripper but I'm not going to track the car often enough to put up with any clunks.

Weight wise it hasn't got a spare wheel but otherwise it's as stock - and the sub in the boot probably weighs the same as the spare!

I'm not happy about my injector duty cycles with greens but remote mapping for 650cc ones failed - when Marco returns I'll get that sorted.

Being a 19t at heart it pulls from just off idle and starts to give real torque from say 2700 rpm. Peak torque is around 4000-4500 rpm i think as that where my clutch lets go. Boost never rises above 1.35 bar since I replaced the BCS - it was allowing 1.55 with a tired one. I still change up at 6000 rpm and I have around 1.15 bar then. I wonder if it flows better than a standard 19t as Owens ported/polished/clipped it and fitted garrett wheels.

Sorry about taking thread off track a bit.

[Cassis R]

That's one of my plans this year Jardon to take the 19t off and get it rebuilt ported and polished then put back on with an S60R ported and polished exhaust manifold, but that is at least 6 months away yet, how much was your refurb from Owen? if you don't mind me asking,


Gary

[Niles]

60-100, 3rd, slightly uphill. started @ 55mph 60-100 = 6.7 sec's (private rd. honest)

Edited by Niles, 10 February 2010 - 18:06 .

[irf]

not that i'm doubting ANYONES figures but more videos needed gents!


my old volvo, haven't got a stopwatch but its about 7 seconds(excuse the music)

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD07yYv3Y0s"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=RD07yYv3Y0s[/url]


my accord type R, completely standard, in fact probably slower then standard as the valve clearances need doing which is robbing it of power. about 10 seconds.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufkTPsEZxPk"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ufkTPsEZxPk[/url]


said it before, i'll say it again, it makes more sense to start from 2nd gear at about 40 odd mph and then accelerate. nearly all cars reach over 60 in second so it slows the time down but it makes it more comparable with magazine figures who accelerate from 0-150 plus and just take the intermediate figures out from there.

[Elliot]

Jardon you will notice a difference in the summer but it wont be that bad because of the meth. Again good times, it must have a bucket load of timing in there to do that at an afr of 10.7 ,will be interesting to see how it respond in the summer keep up the good work.
Irf we should start from 55mph in 3rd that way i will be finished by the time Russ comes on boost (joke)

Edited by Elliot, 10 February 2010 - 19:38 .

[irf]

Elliot, on 10 February 2010 - 19:36 , said:

Irf we should start from 55mph in 3rd that way i will be finished by the time Russ comes on boost (joke)

if we started in third you'd be finished by the time Vtec kicked in YO! (not a joke!)

Edited by irf, 10 February 2010 - 20:00 .

[JCviggen]

irf, on 10 February 2010 - 18:22 , said:

more videos needed gents!

I never pass up an opportunity lol



This one is poor but has GPS logged MPH for you peeps with metric aversion

[jardon]

Approx 4 secs 60-100. Lordy!

[JCviggen]

I find 4th more impressive than 3rd most of the time

[jardon]

TBH my car is wasted on my me as I spend so much time doing short journeys - 4th gear is a rarity. I do exploit it when the road allows though.

[Cassis R]

jardon, on 19 February 2010 - 13:25 , said:

TBH my car is wasted on my me as I spend so much time doing short journeys - 4th gear is a rarity. I do exploit it when the road allows though.

Smae here mate, i barely do 10 miles some weeks, which takes me into a 50 limit, i need to get out more lol and get some vids and timings of the car,

Gary